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as I said much the same as Curry and unless you forgot Portilo was a member of the Labour party in his early days, and the tories got rid, I don't mind him either

not made up my mind about Abbott as a politician she might be OK .................but her mouth runs away with her at times, she is the Labour equivilent of Curry for the tories ..................in all ways

at least he is honest nothing to do with the banks buying mortgages in the USA then

pants on fire .....................................................again bye dave :wave: