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Upson still signed for Poyet though and sorry I disagree about the manager not being a factor, I think it is a massive factor as he plays and trains for that guy, not for any Director of Football David Burke types.

Agree Ward in my mind is his only success since Gus left.

That could well be because David Burke on his own is not as respected without Poyet and Burke on his own is never going to attract players like Bridge, Bruno, Kusczak, Lopez and Orlandi, which is my worry

Or a deal like the Bridge and Hammond deals where their club paid a percentage.

My view is Poyet had more say in who came in and not left to Burke to source the players for his selection. Barber in his last interview quoted Burke as saying that we are already seeing wage demands fall.

Why not, we are told that is an increased budget to the previous season that brought in Bridge, Hammond on loan and the permanent signings of Crofts, Bruno, Kusczak, Lopez and Orlandi. I know which set of signings look the best to me.