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Or go back to the other link I published...it still doesn't paint a great picture https://fullfact.org/economy/are-half-british-households-burden-state/

I think the only way to fix the countries financial ills is to target the elites and the big companies that are paying f all taxes. I don't see labour touching this and I'm sure the middle class will get hammered more once they get in. 4) is a scary prospect for me as I'm about to move to...

But that's irrelevant to the overall point that 40% of people excluding pensioners take more than they pay in tax ! Whether it's right or wrong I will leave up to your own opinion. But fair to say that the country is in pretty dire financial straits post Brexit and COVID and I don't see a way out.

The ONS !

40% without. See my other post further up. That doesn't sound great does it?

So you can't then. That's ok.

Ok angry grandpa 😘

Yer fair enough , although this was reported in all media outlets This is a bit more nuanced. Still doesn't paint a great picture. https://fullfact.org/economy/are-half-british-households-burden-state/ Using ONS data, we broke down the numbers into retired and non-retired households. The...

How about, prove me wrong if you disagree with me, rather than needless abuse.

Yer but they can't expect the tax payers to prop them up ! Fair enough if they don't want to work but they can't expect to have the insta flash lifestyle if they don't work. But I do feel sorry for the youth , back in the day if you rolled up your sleeves you could work your way up and make...

When I were a lad everyone I knew had part time jobs , restaurants , shops , paper rounds whatever. The majority of 16-23 year olds I know now don't seem to. Again maybe I'm completely wrong , would need to see the stats.

This message board is so left wing ! I'm not a Tory boy , I would probably vote labour at the next GE. But I saw a stat the other day that showed a record 54.2% of people (36 million) now live in households which received more in benefits than they contributed in taxes, which is a little...