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The huge similarity in both cases is a night with p*ssed up members of (exclusively) the opposite sex, who you have been hired to entertain for one reason and one reason only, because you are sexy. & How do you know what someone working a hen night has consented to? I posted an interview...

I agree that nobody should be touched up at work, even the women who went into this knowing what it would be like shouldn't have been touched up. That wasn't part of the deal, and was explicitly forbidden on the night. You make it sound like the women who understood the job were Ok with being...

I knew the story when I posted, and not condoning the behavior is not the same as condemning it. Some of the behavior I do condemn, and none of it I approve of, but you guys have not been just criticizing men getting their genitals out or putting their hands up women's skirts, if you were, I...

You just don't know how to have a conversation with someone who disagrees with you without saying they talk crap (and should shut up). What your or my opinion is, that's secondary to the fact that we should be able to express our opinions without being attacked and belittled.

Looking forward to the death of another poster, because they don't agree with your point of view, and you think you are the decent person? I would question whether someone who says something like that has any idea which way is forward.

The only person who has resorted to name calling and telling others they shouldn't speak is the same person questioning other peoples morals and character. Self awareness isn't your strong point is it.

The strange things is people like this start from a position of high moral standards, that then becomes a sense of moral superiority. Then, since they feel so morally superior and so absolutely correct, they can tell others not to speak, ironically then, losing their moral compass completely...

That's no way to speak to someone who simply has a different opinion from you.

I appreciate your apology but there is a whole lot wrong with your post. I don't use the term "snowflake", I generally don't see the point in calling people names. But I am aware of how the term is used, and it is used to describe people who use the fact that they are offended to try to silence...

I criticized them straight away. Your beef is not that I am not criticizing them, it is that I am not jumping to the levels of condemnation that you are. Most of you responding to my posts are using this tactic. I am not as outraged as you are, and I would question if your level of outrage is...

I haven't dismissed those things at all, I've said they are being made out to be the "nature of the night", when they clearly were not. Like I said before the only "pervasive" behaviors (i.e. described as being more than one occasion) were the hands on hips and backs parts, but the details seem...

Why doesn't someone ask the women who worked that night whether they feel that the charities should be giving back the money which was donated? I bet none of them would want that to happen, but I'd also bet that nobody cares what these women (who they are supposedly standing up for) think about...

I'm actually not defending anything. I've never defended the behavior of the guests at this event. Don't equate my position, that your level of outrage is unjustified and disproportionate, with a defense their behavior, that's just lazy. I'm not defending them, nor will I. I'm just not...

She's a dancer on a stage now? Why not just call her a hooker. Women who don't agree with you don't count I guess, you've ignored all the points that she made, and she clearly described working alongside other women and men at these events and speaking with them and witnessing what goes on...

And that's what you took away from her interview is it? You have no interest in the truth only in winning an argument, truth be damned.

When you say that men were hand holding and putting there hands on women's lower backs - and other forms of sexual harassment, then you are saying that those things are sexual harassment. That was what the journalist said in her interview.

Here is a woman willing to go on record, whose worked at this dinner before, and similar events, for both men's nights, and women's nights. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/i-worked-at-presidents-club-dinner-caller/

They don't sanitize the news for family viewing, I frequently choke on my dinner at some of the stuff which gets reported on the early evening news. The only behaviors which were common threads throughout the evening, which multiple women experienced at the hands of multiple guests, were hand...

I've not said it was Ok, I've said, many times, I don't condone or approve of their behavior. I just also don't agree with you and others that these men were being anything more than drunk and flirtatious or that these women were "abused" or "assaulted" because they were touched on the hip, or...