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What happened to point 2? By the way don’t forget to let me know the difference between state aid and nationalisation, we have trod this ground many times before on the Brexit thread, so the nostalgia value is very important to me. Don’t let me down you old Tory schwein.

Oh this is going to be fun. So let’s start with say RBS in 2008........was that state aid or partial nationalisation? As it is you are saying a) the 2 concepts are “entirely different” and b) nothing to do with the organs of EU. In which case you are of the understanding that the elected UK...

Rise to what? I have been perfectly reasonable and answered your questions honestly and directly. If that is why I have a ban from the Brexit and Trump threads then I am guilty.

The very fact that the EU website’s competition webpage details the restrictions on state control of industry tells you that in the EU have plenty to do with it. You support this I do not. http://ec.europa.eu/competition/state_aid/overview/index_en.html You know this well enough, this is why...

Like the rail and utilities the NHS should be in public hands. Do you think the interests of EU are to protect nationalised state assets or privatisation?

Views that espouse the narrative that Tories are unequivocally evil therefore Labour are virtuous are systematic on these threads and are tiresome in their lack of balance. I don’t doubt the passion, but like those constantly whining about Trump, there is no balance. As it stands Trump has not...

I said with TTIP it “would almost certainly be privatised” and I stand by that because the EU is not FOR state assets, it is FOR the interest of big corporations. It is why the Tories took us in, and have campaigned twice to keep us in, with their chums from the IOD, CBI et al. Unite...

Neither you or can say with any certainty what the outcome of TTIP would have been, however opposition to it was widespread in EU member states and rightly so. https://stop-ttip.org/what-is-the-problem-ttip-ceta/ This is not “scaremongering” but recognising that the EU in matters such as trade...

Well, that is yet to be proved, the point I am making is that Brexit if it is managed properly will mean that any Govt seeking to privatise the NHS will do so in full transparency in the HOP. Trade deals done by the EU, are in contrast negotiated in the shadows, by the unelected Commission. It...

Two anecdotes on this, firstly I worked with a fella a few years ago, politically very socialist in outlook and I liked him. His wife was a senior nurse (running whole wards) and he was a great defender of the NHS and what it stood for, he was always quoting his missus experience whenever it...

Your bigoted political position shines through unvarnished here doesn’t it? Had we not had Brexit the NHS was almost certainly going to be privatised via TTIP, as supported by leader of the Capitalist Free World, the President of the US..............yep, that’s Saint Obama...