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I think either my language was wrong or you misinterpreted what I said. The point I was trying to make is this behaviour becomes "normalised", my personal shock was the behaviour and evidence of the investigators. What did their union know ? I don't think it should be accepted as ok, I was...

Those of a left leaning persuasion (I include myself in that) just have to accept that within the "public" services there is a level of institutionalisation that leads to events like this. From the outside it looks like conspiracy, but internally it would be that's just the way we do things...

Both out for the season according to Andy Naylor.

I didn't realise your memory could get lost in the post.

On the balance of probability, just as in any sector, some people at some point have stolen money whilst running a Post Office. What the Post Office simply fails to understand is their investigations (and we've all watched the testimony) are so utterly dysfunctional their view on who is guilty...

I think they are allowed to cut and paste 8 times from the internet these days :)

^^^^ Economy applies to code as it does with posts on NSC

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d = -d would suffice as would d = 0 - d ? (but I'm tired) :)

One for the nerds. This is buried on a report and is a code extract from part of the system. Although the code "works", any idea what the developer could have done instead ...

The political point scoring is incredible depressing. This was a failure of the state, the establishment whatever you want to call it.

mmmmm.... I've witnessed a couple of global systems where the company has ended up employing cheap off shore data entry clerks to fix the data manually. Can't remember where I read it, but apparently there was a large degree of manual override at PO HQ. I'm not suggesting your experience of...

Totally about the culture as mentioned above and everyone is responsible for that. To me the affair is an interesting consideration when thinking about the "private" / "public" debate. In reality there are still at best "institutionalised" or at worse festering basket case corners of the...

And because the disfunction of the Post Office, the branch managers weren't robbed.... The Post Office was "robbed". ..of virtual money made up by the Horizon system that didn't exist. And That's the thing I haven't been able to find an answer for. Why didn't the Post Office organisation...

Yes, I'd probably be asking for immunity too. Having the ability to: 1) Draw some boxes 2) Draw some lines to connect them and finally... 3) Present them to management ....does not exactly make you culpable.

Starts at the top I'm afraid, especially with the money she was on. If the drivel below her didn't feel in a position to say what they thought, that's on her.

It doesn't take long to google the fact that (as Thunder Bolt says) that it needs to be referred to the DPP first. They don't just wade in. Farage is talking shit.

And also complete bullshit. It was a drama not a documentary.

The issue at the Post Office was also the "responsibility" model, which I think now has been challenged and deemed a misinterpretation of the contracts. Even if a Post Master spotted a bug that a customer was exploiting the branch was STILL liable for the losses. All the risk was the branch...

I think it's a bit more complicated than that. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/private-prosecutions/private-prosecutions I think the Post Office and the RSPCA have now withdrawn from private prosecutions. The issue with the Post Office is that when it undertook prosecutions it was...