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Well It would have been a lot easier for em if they'd 'sucked it up" and felt "obliged" to fix it v Cardiff but yes i get what you're saying. I disagree. but i get it.

I think that describes every football club in the country - it’s not my definition of “losing the dressing room”.

If you’re losing and out of nowhere at threat from relegation then no wonder you’re under a lot of pressure but clearly something changed again pre Wolves .

I’m not ignoring them at all. It was horrible, at times shocking. I sat there with my head in my hands. Was it because Hughton “lost the dressing room” - no. Not sure I even know what that means. It’s just a simple explanation for something that is far more complicated.

We found three more points from somewhere. And I think that shows Hughton and the players resilience which the op was questioning. Why it had vanished in the weeks leading up to April is another question.

Well its a bit of a moot point now but if the glib argument is he lost the players or the "dressing room" then for those four games and half an hour at Man City at least he found it again.

Yes. i meant ...before Man City.

In the 4 performances before Man City , we had 3 points from Wolves, Newcastle and Arsenal , which in the end kept us up. I'm not denying that our results for the 2nd half were largely poor, and sometimes shocking but the players and Hughton turned it round when it mattered. including coming...

Our last four performances kept us up, two of which were after we had gone behind. How do you explain them ?

Like i said, tough crowd.

Those that believe he should be sacked now include Tony Bloom and presumably Paul Barber, so illustrious company, and at the end of the day its his train set. But there's plenty of fans who racked up the loyalty points home and away this season who disagree so unfair/wrong to presume that its...

Yes I was. PS: If you can't even stretch to Palace or even Arsenal away as good performances then fair enough. Tough crowd to say the least.

this is repeated again and again on here. There's plenty to criticise Hughton for (although i think sacking him is short sighted) but to not give him or the players credit for these wins is unjustified and illogical. Were the multiple draws , narrow defeats flukes as well ?

Amazed.