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  1. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    Orwell was middle class, pretty sure said so himself. we have adopted the ABCD catagorisation to be more granular for economic and especially marketing, because the old classifications were so blurred and irrelevant. those with property, a profession are and always were middle class, its not...
  2. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    i read Road to Wigan Pier many years ago, very engaging and insightful read, though i forget specifics. i do recall a notion the working class wont give up their meagre luxuries such as sugar, and the man is master of the working class house. oh and references to Brighton ladies looking down...
  3. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    nah, its just the unions making things up. knowing a couple of teachers they'd laugh at the notion of 60 hr weeks and through holidays. some will, there's always some, its not universal. my other half works admin in a school, the main cost saving seems to be either support staff (counter...
  4. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    thats the whole point of "class" though. its not to define you as a person, it indicates groups of relative income and wealth. seems some prefer nowadays to claim a class thinking that means something about character, thats not what the concept is about. what are the values you think define...
  5. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    what are those values and beliefs that seperate class? the definition is very blurred these days, if was ever formally defined, but being uni educated, working for salary and owning property is definately middle class. its a classification, not a sense of self. reckon British are possibly...
  6. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    good question. cultural difference that lead to attitudes towards good diet and putting that lower than other things.
  7. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    too easy linking to poor areas with prevalence of takaways. no takeaway is cheaper than cooking your own, including electricity and travel to a supermarket. saying they'd go to the takeaway instead of time (and lower cost) to shop and cook, is saying they are pretty damn feckless. others have...
  8. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    there is a problem with education and attitudes that prioritise entertainment and leisure time over diet. while food is generationally cheap, people wont make simple meals themselves because say they dont know how or it takes too much time. then people excuse and reinforce their attitude by...
  9. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    i like Patten so was expecting to find good verification. i cant, only news repeating the claim. closest can find is proportion of income share for lowest 20% is lower in UK. 20% is unusal comparison.
  10. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    this used to be called "comfortable".
  11. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    which kinda stumbles into rich verse wealth, and are they different? i think someone who is wealthy is also rich, but not necessarily the other way round (high income but few assets)
  12. beorhthelm

    [Finance] What is 'rich' in 2023?

    rich is a state of mind. other people's that is, if they see you have more they think you are rich.
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