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??? you dont consider 28% of the popular national vote to be substantial? not sure if you've deliberatly misunderstood that comment, the meaning or in denial. one cant ignore well over a quarter of the population supporting a particular strong way of thinking.

i'd say looking at the voting numbers the outcome is the same, we just dont have the first round. unless you believe there is a third party that would consistently knock the Tories into the third across the country through tactical voting. and on the subject, i was going to say well done to...