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  1. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    its been covered and more. you seem to be adressing seperate points to that quoted. the attitude that "its only a drop in the ocean" overlooks that everything is a small amount individually. we are in the situation we are because for a decade our government kept on spend another few hundred...
  2. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    thats ok then, we should just pay it like good liitle europeans. sorted, move on to the next bill.
  3. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    i could go with your point until this, which is plain incorrect. the Commission is the executive of the EU and instigates legislative change. it employes the european civil serive to do its bidding, but the commissioners are most like are ministers and creates its own mandate for changing law...
  4. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    as i understand it, amendment or rejection from the parliament isnt definitive, its the beginning of a discussion with a committee. which sounds very nice but means in practice anything the commission wants it will get. more imporatantly, unlike our parliament, the EU can not initiate law. it...
  5. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    you really dont understand this do you? you dont see the inherent contradiction of your point. if as you say our government could dismiss and overrule any EU regulation, then there would be no need to renegotiate anything. there wouldnt be anything to complain about if our government could...
  6. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    hmm another one. nothing the EU passes on has to be ratified as its submarined under the powers given away in the various EU treaties, themselves often not ratified or passed on a different pretext. i wonder how many pro-europeans really understand the loss of power and soveriegnty from...
  7. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    on the other hand, they did formulate a constitution, only when half the countries rejected it they renamed it as a treaty to get it accepted. EU democracy in action.
  8. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    you should review the powers and process of the EU parliament (they have power to approve the EU budget and the commission, in entirety, and thats about it). it doesnt have any meaningfull oversight of anything, its merely a debating chamber for informal approval of ideas for regulation and...
  9. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    this is patent bollocks, if it were remotly valid no one would care about the EU. hundreds of regulations are imposed on EU members every year through powers ceded by treaties that said one thing and meant another, usually with no democratic oversight.
  10. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    but nothing specific. if GDP numbers had been a decimimal lower, or France and Germany's a shade higher, this wouldnt have come in so high for us and been batted away. its odd how all the countries being asked to cough up are saying its unexpected, yet some how, some people want to portray...
  11. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    a new myth taking hold i see. they couldnt have known 10 mths ago what the GDP numbers where for UK or other countries to base the calulation on, only that a calculation was expected.
  12. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    when an economy returns to negative growth after a short period of positive growth. technically there is a formal definition, its just a description of two seperate recessions in quick succession.
  13. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    your argument is not self evident, it is wrong, like your daft short sentances. a recession does end with a quater of positive growth. try to learn something about subject, maybe reading google as you adivse others to do.
  14. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    are you really confusing and comparing a nations self-determination with a persons free will and freedom to travel, or did you mis-type? if you did mean that, people have long had the option to change their citizenship, so this hardly justifies imposing a foreign culture and rule of law upon...
  15. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    and you'd win that bet. but doesnt it seem at least a tad odd for a bankrupt country to be still asked to pay its club subs, so that the club can pay out to the pet projects its wants to fund in that country (after extracting running costs of course).
  16. beorhthelm

    EU to charge Britain more money due to success of economy....

    the research has been done by many a think tank, but its irrelevent: if we were to leave Europe we would negotiate free trade, freedom of movement of labour and captial. with so much trade coming to the 2nd/3rd largest economy in europe and 6th in the world, it would be in their interests to do...
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