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  1. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    Under this government? After the GE? In 10 years time? or 20? What answer do you want to hear? Why does my view even matter except to my friends and family?
  2. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    Gotcha 👍 Yes, the timing is significant I think - the issue feels like its more about who is protesting rather than stopping protests for violent extremism - there’s been less arrests in all the recent demonstrations than football fans in Europe. Maybe it’s my age but I spent a good deal of...
  3. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    Well that’s a polarised view if I ever heard one 😂I simply asked a question related to the thread topic - calmly sceptical - you don’t have to answer it - or indeed announce to all and sundry because of my post you are now ignoring the thread - just ignore it for heavens sake some of us do...
  4. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    The timing of what? The March? My post?
  5. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    What’s yours? I asked first 😂
  6. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    https://news.sky.com/story/todays-pro-israeli-and-pro-palestinian-protests-in-london-seethed-with-mutual-animosity-13104778 After Michael Gove’s new definition of ‘extremism’ - is allowing two opposing demonstrations to run in such close proximity a deliberate attempt to inflame Islamophobic...
  7. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    I have to be honest here, I don’t much like Dianne Abbot, I never have but she did have the whip removed last August for saying that Jews, Irish and travellers haven’t suffered racism ‘all their lives’. She is no longer a Labour MP (but is still a supporting member ) so it is much harder to have...
  8. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    Let’s unpack that Michael Gove because it sounds as if you have just labelled the Tory Party as an ’extremist’ organisation… Promotion of violence - Sunak, Braverman, dog whistling to far right groups to incite violent protests against pro-Palestinian marches; spreading fear and hatred against...
  9. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    Ok well I did say most people on NSC would not probably understand the nuances of the issues but please don’t be so presumptuous as to tell me what I believe. I am absolutely NOT saying all people with black skin are the same because of the blackness of their skin - exactly the opposite. Of...
  10. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    Did you know that Hester’s Lawyer actually said (quoted in the Guardian link I posted earlier) ‘the fact that his (Hester’s) donation was to a party led by Britain’s first Hindu prime minister, a politician of Indian heritage, was further evidence of him embracing diversity’ That’s like...
  11. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    LOL - did you actually absorb the content of my post before quoting me? - I literally said ‘being Black’ is NOT about being superficially defined by skin colour (that would be a discriminatory approach and is actually very dehumanising). Self-identification of being Black, is a recognition...
  12. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    That could be interpreted as a little passive aggressive at the idea that a play would be presented to a black audience or Blacks don’t have a need/right to share experiences of being a black policeman or just having a space to enjoy shared cultural or social interests. People that have been...
  13. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    Just to clarify in case your post is misinterpreted- it would be offensive to call any one Afro-Caribbean unless they had an Afro-Carribean heritage/identity. Ie they are of African heritage but come from the Caribbean. I don’t know many A-Cs but do know a few and they say the majority of black...
  14. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    Ha, I only meant the first part of my post with the Sunak parallel to distinguish between ‘black’ as an acceptable adjective and ‘black’ in the context of discriminatory remarks. - the rest, not so much 🤓 People are missing two essential points here - Hester did discriminate against black...
  15. Zeberdi

    [Politics] Is it OK to say racist things if you're not racist?

    The original story that broke in the Guardian if anyone missed it: “The Guardian has learned of a 2019 meeting at TPP’s headquarters in which Hester spoke about an executive from another organisation, saying: “She’s shit. She’s the shittest person. Honestly I try not to be sexist but when I...
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