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    Hillsborough the search for the truth

    I dont think there should be criminal sanction for negligence. But the lies and the perverting the course of justice should, as with Guilford 4 Birmingham 6 and Cardiff result in jail terms for the guilty. As with Cardiff, Guilford and Birmingham, it would be the police investigating the police...
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    Hillsborough the search for the truth

    I have said before that nobody set out to kill anyone. That for me a a fundamental truth. The crime however was the police and their bog standard reaction of failing to tell the truth if the truth is uncomfortable. Not just those at the top but rank and file officers who through their trade...
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    Hillsborough the search for the truth

    So the complaint is that the police did a poor job, people died and some in the police lied to cover up a mistake. Well mate, that is not half as bad as what the police were up to in Cardiff and it was an ex Chief of the Met who said " the definition of a good police force is one where half of...
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    Hillsborough the search for the truth

    As is again lost on everyone arguing, nobody tried to kill anyone, therefore there really isn't any "Justice" to be had, just sadness. It was an accident. Yes the police obviously lied and covered up their mistakes. But really, is that a shock? What happened in Cardiff where no policeman has...
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    Hillsborough the search for the truth

    I have the impression that if the police had just told the truth from the start and not lied about who opened the gates and various other things then the Sun newspaper article that caused so much offence would never have been written. However I do wonder why all sides cannot agree on a...
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