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All those who are criminally convicted, that’s a must, shirley. Including lawyers.

Add the Post Office money. Will that effectively come from us?

A new low today, the senior PO bosses response to the suicide attempt and then death of Martin Griffiths. I did laugh when the counsel said don't answer like an automaton, I think there were sniggers from the public gallery disguised as coughs.

I wonder if she was once on their published list of alumni?

My experience from observing judges and barristers (from the wright side of the lore :smile: ), is that these characters will be systematically torn apart at a criminal trial. Superior intellects, through logic, catching out inconsistencies and lies.

She comes across as confident, very prepared and slick, under a facade just for this week of humility. Predictably playing the game of being an innocent bystander. ***** through her teeth.

And others.

A bad day for Chris Aujard, the PO’s senior inhouse lawyer until 2015, and for Vennell. They were made aware by their external forensic investigators that Horizon was creating false ‘funds’ at sub post offices, yet they carried on regardless, thus defrauding the sub post office masters. For...

Vennells stripped of her CBE. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68384240

That cropped up in the enquiry. In that; one of the investigators said to another, strange all these newspaper stories of alleged injustices, do you think the PO/Fujitsu are wrong? But the PO/Fujitsu effectively passed down the firm message that Horizon was catching fraudsters, who would’ve...

They wrecked entire families. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68084538

I look forward to The Met concluding their investigations, they say it will take 2 years. The enquiry has revealed criminal acts such as non disclosure, fraud (money taken under false pretenses), perjury and advice from solicitors to act dishonestly. Hopefully criminal court cases to follow...

Were you affected, family or yourself?

The subpostmasters are even more clear about the corrupt people (PO and Fujitsu) running the whole lie and cover up. The top brass fed the investigators the very same lie that Horizon was working perfectly well.

My views exactly, social media focusing on investigating staff, who themselves were also fed a pack of lies by top level management and Fujitsu that Horizon was solid. Along with the bonus system rewarding attacks on sub-postmasters. Relatively speaking, I’ve little interest in these low...

Hopefully laws have been tightened since then.

They all come across as humble rabbit-in-the-headlights types. Masking, imho, belligerence and bullying traits over the last 10 to 25 years.

It’s amazing how many ‘top business brains’ lack a memory.

If (you or) I took the PO CEO role, I'd like to think that on the to-do list would be for my own knowledge at the very least, to find out the full background, overturn stones, take a fresh unbiased look, to see if we have a commercial claim against Fujitsu. Also, once known that I must sit in...

I thought the same, they’ve had 4 plus years to find out to the best they can internally exactly what happened, who knew what, any lies they were spun by Fujitsu.