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Callers to LBC today, ringing from Tier 2 and Tier 3 area shopping malls, reported shoppers who driven huge distances from Tier 4 areas to shop there. Just from chatting with those folk. The ‘inventiveness’ of the British don’t give a feck minority, knows no bounds.

Sturgeon promised a 5 day Christmas, changed last night to one day, and she's not even one of those dastardly Tories. What's your view on Sturgeon's very late in the day breaking of the promise? Wales - the CV19 capital of the UK, horrendous stats. The two week circuit breaker, lauded on NSC...

Sturgeon and Drakeford are party to the same information, they’ve thanked Downing Street throughout for the sharing of all scientific and public information in real time. Question for you, why did Wales and Scotland also only act last night then in dramatically curtailing Christmas? I suspect...

I know you’re not btw.:smile: The 99% is a figure covid or pandemic deniers quote to downplay CV19. It crops up all the time eg on a Nicky Campbell phone in this week .... a guest on for other reasons, quickly got a load of CV denying lies in. He was slow to act, but other listeners and...

The 99% (but that’s very questionable .... it’s the number used by covid deniers incidentally), would include an awful of people clogging hospital non-covid wards ... they would not all have mild symptoms to be able to recover at home. Then the many millions of over 60’s and/or all those with...

Because the hospitals are full already eg Manchester region.

So, why did Sturgeon act tonight, by shortening Xmas from 5 to 1 day? There must be new information eg on the virulence of the new strain. This afternoon Italy changed tack completely, with a full lockdown over Christmas and separately over New Year. Wales followed by bringing in tough...

March to June was a pretty restrictive lockdown, it worked at the time and for a couple of months afterwards. Restrictions since haven’t been a lockdown. Just to say, literally everyone other than Covid deniers, always said that there would be further waves starting this autumn. So it proved...

But the science presented must be brand new, that’s why are all the governments acting today. Sturgeon hadn’t cancelled Christmas when Starmer and Johnson were politicking mid week. But she has tonight.

I’ve heard that argument before. The best evidence is that the March to June lockdowns across Europe worked. Thousands dying a day, became very low numbers. Overwhelmed hospitals in Italy and Spain, piles of coffins, not old ICU staff dying of CV19 .... all eventually eased. I benefitted...

Sturgeon - 6 hours ago she reduced their Christmas freedoms from 5 days, to just Christmas Day. Drakeford - presided over the two week circuit breaker in October. On NSC and in the anti Tory media this was portrayed as a game changer “why can’t we have one”. Now Wales is the CV19 capital of...

So, Sturgeon and Drakeford, acting on the same scientific advice, have also seen awful CV19 waves, have locked down, eased, set restrictions, eased, set harsher restrictions. Lacking the Tory attributes and alleged corruption you despise, why have they equally failed?

Again, the US figure was very low compared to Spain, Belgium, UK, Italy, Netherlands, France. Then US federal and state administrations spent 2020 on a criminal catch up. Despite having a fortuitous starting point.

Do you also award E- to Remainers Drakeford and Sturgeon, as well as EC stalwarts Macron, Conte, Wilmes, Rutte and Sanchez? Without an anti-EU bone in their bodies, they also presided over awful CV19 metrics. Despite having those same early warnings.

It always has been. Huge swathes of the US away from NY, NJ and Florida escaped in the spring. So the US had a very fortunate starting point. Then Trump and his Rep. buddy governors set about catching up with European nations death per capita stats. Which they managed effortlessly.

Will do. (I love Germany btw, just relaying what was reported about some state leaders throwing their weight around against Berlin).

It has been, fact. Scotland, Wales, France, Italy and all the others have also had shocking CV19 numbers. Without a Tory in sight. Their leaders also slagged off.

According to BBC’s Jenny Hill, based in Berlin, in the end their much praised track n trace couldn’t cope with the sheer numbers infected and the 100’s people each had come into contact with. Plus some German states acting arrogantly, pursuing different paths initially from Merkel’s dictate...

Excellent post. Callers to 5live this week boasted about restaurant meals taken in the last few months of load of folk from many different households on the same table. They lied to the restaurants that they were just from two households. They got the impression that the restauranteurs...

Not disagreeing, but it’s that constant battle of CV19 control versus the economy must go on. As explained by Dr Chris Smith and Prof Heneghan, that balance is normal, otherwise we’d all have been locked up at home since early March, the country bankrupt. For balance, even this week Starmer...