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  1. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    Similar experience for me. Some very angry Tory haters and a pretty popular Conservative Society. But all tiny beer compared to the huge numbers at gigs, in the bars drinking incredibly cheap lager and snakebite, chasing the other sex, into sport. In between all of that, some studying just...
  2. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    "The majority of students simply don't get involved in politics.' A very relevant point, and I would extend that to most young people. For every angry 20 year old on a march in support of Tommy Robinson or donning a Yasser Arafat keffiyeh spitting hate at capitalism, there's a quiet huge...
  3. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    Chatting with some current year 11 and sixth form students and recent graduates, a recurring theme is that they don't like older characters in their life telling them what's right and what not to like. Interestingly, it can stimulate them to go the other way politically (legendary British...
  4. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    El Presidente and dingodan then went on to give anecdotal and other evidence that I was correct about left leaning teachers and lecturers. It's always been the way. It doesn't bother me in the slightest - 14, 17, 21 year olds have an amazing ability to make up their own minds, despite the...
  5. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    Wasn’t referring to this thread. I was asked in general which NSC’ers are very right wing? Not for me to say. But I would hazard a guess those that get involved in political mud slinging matches with those vehemently pro Remain or pro Corbyn on NSC; and yes, those other debates do degenerate...
  6. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    As ever, great and honest insights, thank you. Agree with you about the right too, and it goes way beyond education. Have had dealings with horrible ex-public school boys, who help useless posh buddies take key roles ahead of clearly better non-posh candidates. Not a true meritocracy, which...
  7. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    :smile: You'd obviously always allow reasoned debate and have experience of the world beyond higher education possibly giving you a rounded (not rotund) perspective? The 'debates' at local schools and beyond on recent matters such as Momentum and Brexit have often abruptly ended as follows...
  8. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    Always been the way. School teachers and uni lecturers arrogantly deeming that their left view of the world is righteous and unsubtly trying to indoctrinate their students. But because even 14 year olds in this free thinking country make up their own minds, it doesn’t go entirely to their...
  9. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    Agree entirely with your middle section on economics. The hard left believe there’s a large cake that grows by accident, which should be cut more fairly. Within reason there’s fairness and sense there, but a vibrant economy driven by entrepreneurs taking risks determines the size of the cake...
  10. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    Like you, I have a mixture of views. I've voted for New Labour, Greens and Tory. I liked Blair, Cameron/Clegg and some policies of Thatcher. The reaction of half the populace to the huge influx of immigrants and the hate speak of Islamist fundamentalist preachers based here, is completely...
  11. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    Not you. I like your reasoned views. I'm not going to name call, but those who've had bans deserved it. Sometimes they have valid points IMO (which are seized upon by their left wing NSC adversaries), but they respond with insults. One final thing, their "very right wing" views are fine by...
  12. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    I agree with some of your politcal views and disagree with others. But yes, I noticed that too, the full array of very right wing NSC'ers have appeared in unison. Which is very unusual thesedays, with politics threads dominated by Corbynistas and Remainers.
  13. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    On a scale with Stalin/Hitler/Assad/Mao being a 10 out 10, I'd give a mild 1 or 2 to the premierships of Blair and Thatcher, simply through the careful management of media, parliamentary voting through their use of the whip system, bullying (Alaistair Campbell and Malcolm Tucker) and zealous...
  14. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    And both types of regime almost always give the ruling elite a life of luxury. Power corrupts.
  15. Weststander

    [Technology] Are some leftwingers unthinking automatons?

    I’ve not posted on this thread until now. I like alot of your posts and points. Your travels around the country give you a wide view. But have you not also come across racism, anti immigrant, homophobic stuff from Labour voting types? I have, of very widely varying generations. I know many...
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