I think they were talking about old fashioned uncompromising 'stopper' types. Their head always finds the ball.
Lawro had that, but was also a cultured passer and player.
It was worth watching. Not just the usual token 30 seconds of ill informed waffle.
Altogther 5 minutes on Shane Duffy, with interviews at the world class Lancing complex.
Kilbane reckons he's improving all the time, heading towards the quality of Irish CB legends McGrath and Dunne.