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And as you say that is the crux, you're happy for the EU to rule while I'm not. Pro's and Con's to each view. Thankfully you don't resort to the 'Little Englander' insult because we disagree. I'm all for healthy political debate but I object to being called a racist, xenophobe or little...

There are some demands that the EU can pass under current treaties thus forcing our parliament to pass a law to implement said demand.

Well aren't we a tetchy little so in so ! I was only pointing out that our parliament is forced to pass laws thanks to the EU. The key word being FORCED - I for one think OUR parliament should rule not the EU.

Under the EU treaties our parliament has no choice but to do so. It's smoke and mirrors to give the EU a hint of respectability and democracy.

Utter bollocks !

Small point of order - you can only have a 'constitutional right' if there is a constitution. Now I know that the arrogant unelected bureaucrats in Brussels WANT to believe the EU is a constitution but it isn't and if it ever is I doubt the UK will be part of it.

We are a net contributor to the EU so don't get 'billions from the Eurozone'. Unless of course you're referring to trade. Nobody has yet provided any evidence or even a convincing argument that EU members would cease to trade with us just because we leave a club.

Yes, fair point. I take that bit back. Not in the report I've just read. It says it was known a recalculation was taking place but the demand and the amount were only this week.

Let's take for example that we could fund 20 ( yes TWENTY ) new hospitals in our major cities a year from the net contribution we give the EU every year. Lots of love, a little Englander !

The EU followers can go and live in ..... another EU country as far as I'm concerned if they love the EU so much !!! I will give @Herr Tubthumper a couple of things - he has great taste in food and he has at least gone to another EU country. It's the resident EU lickspittles that are so blinkered !

And they, along with Italy, had the EU demand who ran their country - the EU forced out democratically elected leaders. Oh, and the EU allowed them into the Euro KNOWING they didn't adhere to the conditions of the Euro - CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION.

They are required to by law .... who's law ? ..... you've got it, the EU's law ! Yes the EU wants tax from illegal activities !!!! Let's not mention that their auditors have refused to sign off their accounts for well over a decade. A criminal organisation demanding tax on criminal activities...

The key words in that sentence.

And as usual when the pro-EU'ers start to get backed into a corner, the insults start.

Really ?? So you're suggesting that it's OK for us to subsidise the failure of the Eurozone ? I'd suggest it is you that is the idiot in the room with your blind faith that an organisation that hasn't had it's accounts approved by auditors for over a decade. This extra payment covers a period in...

And it's why PEOPLE like you are NOT idiots.

And the Germans - that's going to feck Herr Tubthumper right off given apparently Germany is better at everything yet it clearly has a worse performing economy than ours ! If I were CMD I'd tell the EU to get stuffed and just not pay it.