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  1. Westdene Seagull

    UKIP Surge Ahead!

    Many a British politician has gone on to work within the EU structure. Despite being anti-EU Neil Kinnock ( and his wife ) have made a fair amount of money working for the EU. That doesn't account for the MEP's of all parties ( including UKIP ) who rake in disgustingly high salaries and expense...
  2. Westdene Seagull

    UKIP Surge Ahead!

    Because they know there is a strong chance of the vote being lost and their gravy train drying up ? After all, if the British voters deliver the "wrong" verdict they'll struggle to do what the EU normally does when it doesn't get the answer it wants - make people vote again until they get the...
  3. Westdene Seagull

    UKIP Surge Ahead!

    I was repeating the thinkings of a respected and very pro-EU politician. He commented that while he would always fight for the UK to stay in the EU the doomsday scenario arguments that many put out ( such as your claims ) were completely out of proportion of any likely reality - i.e. the claims...
  4. Westdene Seagull

    UKIP Surge Ahead!

    We wouldn't have to. As discussed in an article by Paddy Ashdown last year, the likely outcome would be a single trade agreement between the UK and the EU. Yes we would still be bound by SOME of the rules but importantly we'd be free to create trade deals with the rest of the world that suited...
  5. Westdene Seagull

    UKIP Surge Ahead!

    And as usual someone making up "facts" about UKIP. Roger Helmer MEP for example has an 88% voting record in the European parliament. That's better than many Labour, Tory and Lib Dem MPs in the UK parliament. I don't have a problem with people debating with facts but the making up of stuff (...
  6. Westdene Seagull

    UKIP Surge Ahead!

    Errr .... yes. And those of us considering voting for UKIP get that. It's only the rise in UKIP popularity that has forced Cameron into offering a vote and Clegg into joining a TV debate.
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