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Have you ever had a Baboon's thumb up your arse ? I do believe that until you've tried it you're in no position to give a fully informed judgement ??? *edit* I'm starting to think I don't want to know the answer (never trust a professional student :eek:)

I have. Kane is already half way down with the arm around him. You're Wrong . :)

Now you've pointed it out I can see where I was wrong Silly me :facepalm: