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You have to be very careful here imho , as we have seen Mike dean 2nd yellowed Dunk and sent him off for a foul committed by Bissouma ( it happened last month again Charles of Bolton who is white was sent off for punching an FGR player , but it was Kachunga who committed the offense and is black...

I honestly thought this was supposed to be league wide now , that the captain does all the talking , if not it should be .

Richard !

The same as you i want to enjoy a great day at the football , and if we lose i`m miffed the same as the next guy , but lose because we were beaten fairly not because even with the benefit of technology a bloke sat miles away from the game cant do his job even though he has assistants to help him...

Was my question too difficult :shrug:

Rubbish , the sort of deflection comment i would expect from someone who knows their losing the point . My ONLY point is we have too many mistakes because we have too many bad refs . In the last 3 games alone . 1 Rabinho should have seen red . 2 Robertson should have seen red . 3 Estupinan`s...

If VAR checked that then my point on bad refs is proven . stop what ?

To get the Ferguson tackle wrong when the ref was in decent view is very poor , but minutes later to get the Robertson tackle wrong as well ???. If that is his call then he definitely needed VAR help .

OK i`ll bite , the implication being while poor Ferguson was being treated for that disgraceful foul the ref could have asked VAR to check the tackle , instead he did nothing !.

Come on you know full well i don`t mean it like that . As soon as a ball hits anyone in a crowded penalty area half the crowd screams for a penalty , i get it that`s supporters for you , but when there is a serious foul the response is genuine , even the panel of ex players on Sky on Saturday`s...

I thought so too , but the co-commentator ( sounded like it was Townsend ) seemed to think not and pointed out the ref being asked to check VAR . My understanding was that VAR would be used less this season , and had to be asked for by the ref , obvious goals and obvious penalties aside , as it...

The Veltman one was checked but Dunk was asking for the ref to check the Mitoma one which he waved away as a goal kick , my understanding was that because the ref believed it cut and dry VAR wouldn`t be involved , something that the commentator on the thread i was using also stated .

I also mentioned common sense , when you have a player tackled from behind with physios on the pitch and the player has to go off , with several other players and the entire stadium asking for a red card , that`s when the common sense bit should tell you that either The Amex is the best...

The referee did not ask for VAR............That is my point !

I think you did "The same ref doesn`t make the same mistake in every game "

The referee doesn`t have to ask or take advice from VAR , i heard on tv that in the Liverpool game the ref did not ask for VAR assistance in the Fabinho or Robertson fouls , both of which should have been red cards imo .

Michael Oliver is a good referee , contrary to those on this thread that think i only want to attack refs , i only want to attack bad refs . A bad referee is someone who doesn`t use all the tools at his disposal , or use common sense , surely we all want that ? . For instance , say you travel...

Darren England made the same mistake twice in our game against Fulham , he did not direct the VAR to check two penalty decisions , this wouldn`t have stopped or slowed the game down , so WHY? . If you read the Fulham site you will see that they were moaning about him from a previous game when he...

Sanchez doesn`t drop the ball every game , there IS a poor decision made by the ref EVERY game , this is acceptable as he is just a human , BUT unacceptable when he doesn`t use VAR . And that is unacceptable when they cant draw a correct line .

We know it is possible to have good refs - PIERLUIGI COLLINA , genuinely a hero of mine . Whenever he was reffing a game you knew it would end in a true result .