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  1. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    Indeed - the EU would just laugh and say 'go away and come back when you've accepted May's deal', given that our politicians had agreed they wouldn't go for the alternatives.
  2. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    I agree that that they'd carry it out if they liked the deal on the table, but I don't think any of them can agree a deal with the EU that enough MPs would like, particularly given the fact that we have a minority government. No. You're being childish. It's not point scoring, I'm simply...
  3. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    I think it is. That's not true. Many Brexit-supporting MPs did vote for her deal yesterday. Some didn't, but not over 115. There just aren't that many Brexit-supporting MPs.
  4. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    There are 650 MPs. The clear majority are remainers.
  5. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    Why did you italicise 'elected', as if that was somehow something I hadn't grasped? The people elected MPs who are against Brexit, so the mess that followed was predictable and would have happened regardless of who was in power. My issue is that you think I'm just claiming that Labour would do a...
  6. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    What? No there isn't, most MPs want to remain - by a large margin.
  7. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    It isn't, the MPs simply don't want us to leave. Yes I know, but then none of them can get us a better deal, so it's the same thing. Sure, but you're kidding yourselves if you think this would be better under Labour. Sure, but no one is capable of agreeing a deal which is decent and in the...
  8. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    No, it is a fact that Corbyn is anti-EU, and against his party on the issue. The main problems we have now are due to the fact that our MPs are against the result of the referendum. You just blame everything on the Tories because you don't like them.
  9. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    I'm also struggling to see the alternatives. She might just play brinkmanship with house and repeat the vote again, leaving it so late that there's the threat of 'no deal' is she loses. But I don't believe the MPs will fall for it. She'd lose the vote again, and then she'll be faced with no deal...
  10. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    Yes they want power, but we don't know what they'd want to do with it.
  11. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    We don't know what Labour want, they won't say.
  12. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    Shambolic ruling only matched by the opposition - a party also at odds on Europe internally, with a pro-Brexit leader who's pretending not to be for the time being. If we get rid of our current crap party for decades you'll see just how far Britain can fall.
  13. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    Sure, but you said that the Brexiteers didn't take the chance - they didn't have the chance, the MPs in parliament are mostly remainers.
  14. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    WTO is very unlikely.
  15. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    If you're right, she'll lose the vote of no confidence. But you're not, and she won't.
  16. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    Are you trying to be funny?
  17. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    Today's vote was against the deal, because she was charged with getting a deal that none of them want. That doesn't mean they think Corbyn would do a better job, I'm sure they don't.
  18. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    He's the only one capable of uniting the house. Against him, that is.
  19. Triggaaar

    [Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?

    How is that not personal? My 12-year-old has taken to starting all her abuse with 'no offense, but'. You seem like an older version.
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