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Sounds like a howler. I imagine they'd show that on the screen, as they'd have thought it was correct, and not contentious. Mistakes like that could be fun.

I didn't see the Swiss penalty. I'd imagine that if they think the VAR decision is correct - clear and obvious - then they'll think it's ok to show it to the crowd. It doesn't make sense that they think 'wo, this is dodgy as hell, the crowd will go mad if they see this' and at the same time...

So no then, they wouldn't show that on the screens, as it wasn't a decision made by VAR. Yes I know.

Was that given by the ref, or VAR?

Ok cool, drama over. It's like trying to make sense of flatworms sword fighting with their penises, before mating. The officials being fairly incompetent is another one.

I did. You do disagree. I read you post that the first time. That's not what I'm disagreeing with you about. No, you try reading what we've written. We can see the Stones push - it is nothing like as bad as the rugby tackle on Kane, and it it's after the rugby tackle on Kane, so it's a penalty.

More than a few. I can see an argument for the penalty against us - it's not the worst decision in the world, but it was soft IMO. Certainly not a stone wall penalty. In one of the rugby tackles on Kane, I saw at the time that he held the defenders shirt, but that was after the defender was all...

Kane was being fouled before that gentle push.