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Ok, fair enough. The reason I think it's relevant is that I think Corbyn is so unrealistic about what can be done, that he's not going to fight effectively for what we need. When I hear him talk it all seems like an idealistic dream, not something he could ever deliver. I therefore think he'd be...

Because her policies are more realistic that his. If the public agree with you, then Corbyn will win today, and he'll lead the negotiations. I disagree with you.

Did I say I don't care? No, I said I don't like. And then I said it again. But IMO the Brexit negotiations are the most important factor over the next 5 years, and I think May would do a better job than Corbyn. Although if we didn't have Brexit coming up, I'd still think a government lead by...

I don't like her election strategy, I don't like that she hasn't been more open to interviews (although I don't mine her avoiding the leaders debate, which I think is just a circus), and I don't understand why she's avoided interviews as I think she does fine in them. But we're not discussing...

I'm interested in showing why announcing a plan is a bad idea. Why are you finding this hard to grasp? You got confused in a conversation between other people and now you're trying to suggest I'm wasting time etc :rolleyes: Ok good, so we're not at complete opposite ends of the debate then...

Ok good, we're in some agreement. Can you give some examples of the sort of level of detail they could give us, that would be part of the plan? But you said "they are obviously going to be allowed to stay anyway." If that's obvious, then why are they not applying for jobs, as they know they'll...

As above, I've said it's a bad idea (not impossible) to tell us the plan. I disagree with Titanic.

You've got completely confused. Firstly, he didn't start formulating a plan, he just raised some issues (which I disagree with, but that's besides the point for what we're discussing). Secondly, I didn't say it was impossible to give a plan, I said it would be a bad idea to do so (which has...

What? You've got quite mixed up. Please explain what you think my double standards are.

I didn't ask for a list of issues that he or you think haven't been thought through (a point I disagree with). He said that he hadn't seen a plan, and I asked for an example of a plan. He hasn't given one. The point is that you can't just detail your plan before negotiations, as it would weaken...

The polls have shown Labour narrow the gap since the election was called. Following the attack in Manchester, the gap continued to narrow. The gap remained the same after the London attack.

Good, thanks. But you're ok for the EU to play politics with the UK nationals that are in the Eu? I disagree, I think both sides should allow the nationals to stay. As for your point and my question (you've yet to hear of ANY Brexit plan, and my asking you for an example plan), saying you'd...

So you're saying that before the attacks, the polls had Labour in the lead, and now they don't?

Please give an example of a Brexit plan that you think the government should tell us.

Surely this has helped Labour, as the Tories are blamed for reducing the number of police on our streets.

Hurry back now, I look forward to making you angry later. He started it!

I've been posting on NSC for over 11 years, do you think I started when I was 0?

Can you see the irony in the childishness of the game you're playing?

Oh right. So you really think I'm 15? You're weird. Bless. I think you're a tw@, so if my questions annoy you I see that as a benefit, so I'm hardly going to stop am I :)

If you can't express yourself properly in your posts, it can be a bit difficult to grasp what you mean. So are you still guessing my age, or is it something else?