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She does come across as an idiot, but a few decades ago she was considered to be quite intelligent. Assuming that was an accurate assessment, I can only conclude that something happened to her brain cells.

:rolleyes: Fine, but you can see what people here thought. I'm not claiming they said the word 'just', but that is what we all thought. People thought she was showing early signs of dementia (although I will say that as soon as I mentioned her ill health to my wife she said it was probably...

Did she really? I thought she didn't say anything, and that it was a statement by Labour and she had been removed without being asked. I don't remember her commenting on it. Just like I clearly communicated that she hadn't just been diagnosed with a serious illness, yet you thought I meant it...

You're wrong, they clearly didn't know she'd be back, as they said: How can you dupe yourself by not reading every report available? People don't have time to read every report. If she was being dropped permanently, it would be understandable if the party watered it down to spare her...

Just read this thread, people said she wouldn't be back. That's what people here thought. How is that lying? I'm going on what I've read (here).

I'm generally quite cynical, but I'm not closed minded. I simply think that Labour fooled the electorate.

Yep, like I say, I didn't say it wasn't serious. I said she hadn't just been diagnosed. You seem to be having difficulties with English.

May is getting a lot of abuse at the moment. Is it 'cos she is black?

I am very cynical of the way Labour have handled this. I can't see how my cynicism is the serious point here, rather than what Labour have done. I have as much interest in what the guardian have to say about this as what the Daily hate might say.

No you haven't, because I didn't say that. That's never going to happen. You're telling me I said something I didn't say.

I'd say thanks, but that's not really what I did. It's a serious point, Labour did make it sound like she'd just been diagnosed with something so people would stop saying bad things about her level of performance. Since she'd been diagnosed two years earlier, they didn't need to wait until the...

But she's back to being shadow home secretary! And if her illness is exacerbated by pressure, she wouldn't make a very good home secretary would she.

No I certainly didn't. No, you read the posts on here. People on here said she wouldn't be back, because that's what people here thought. What? You're talking absolute nonsense. I didn't say it wasn't a serious condition. You saying I did will not change the fact that I did not. I said she...

I certainly haven't. No. She hasn't just been diagnosed with a serious condition. She was diagnosed 2 years ago. She was failing in the run up to the election and Labour knew she was going to cost them votes, so they made us think she'd just been diagnosed with a serious condition (again, she...

And who said that? Try and get your facts right.

Again, who said it wasn't? Wrong again - I've already quoted several people saying that she wouldn't be back. Tell you what, you quote all the posts that said she just need a couple of weeks off and would be back as shadow home secretary, and I'll quote (again) those that said she wouldn't be...

Yep, this one is pretty awful: Facts? She was so bad that her own party dropped her. Why do you think they dropped her? It wasn't because she'd been diagnosed with a serious illness.

Who said it wasn't? She's incompetent, so she gets abuse from all sides. Her own side even dropped her before the election as they were so embarrassed. Wow.

Well the scam seems to have worked. Voters thought she'd just been diagnosed with a serious condition (she hadn't) and voters thought she wouldn't be back (she is): You've been proper mugged off.

Pardon?