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Agreed. Well since I agree that you can't rely on any side to be 100% honest, then yes, somewhere inside the extremes. However, I think it's dangerous to just say 'all sides lie' and therefore assume they're all the same. It's just like humans, we all lie sometimes, but there are still some...

I didn't say that. I said what I said, and I'm right. Feel free to read it again. Yeah, we made Russia take over the Crimea (or it didn't happen, whatever you say), we made them send hooligans to assault English fans in France, we made them bribe their way to the WC in 2018 and then bin all the...

From your post I took it that you think it was understandable that Russia were spending more, because of foreigners doing the same. If that's the reason, the other countries must have done that before Russia then changed policy to increase spending. I don't see that being the case at all. We...

What I don't believe is that Russia's spending is because of the build up foreign military forces, rather than the other way around.

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They don't have free press and they can't say whatever they want. Russia is doing very badly economically. They've just been at war with their neighbours, many Russians have died. Yet Putin's popularity remains untouched. Why do you think that might be? We've never had a leader as popular as...

At least we get the chance to question our press. We can look at the press in other countries, question whether ours is accurate, post on here about it. To compare the accuracy of what we're being told with what Russians are being told is extremely naive. I don't believe you.

No, and quite the opposite - Vlad sells them his assets before the war.

Yeah, but we wouldn't believe it, and 3 minutes isn't quite long enough for a full debate and conclusion.

But can we not cancel it even on the off chance that there isn't a nuclear war?

Is that a Russian sub commander I hear?

And we're still supposed to have a world cup there in 2 years. FFS cancel it already. and no, I'm not suggesting Murray cancels it.

Happy days.