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No I know. I wasn't sure why non FFP accounts were being discussed.

Yeah that's what I assumed, I got confused with all this talk of year-ends. What was that conversation about then, it makes no difference to us fans does it?

I assumed the FFP dates were the same for everyone, not dependent on a club's year end. If it's down to your year end, surely you should have that when the transfer window is open, so that you can move purchases and sales between different seasons to cheat FFP.

Blimey, as if they didn't already have enough in their favour.

How do you get £35m? I think it should be £13m.

They won't be getting an embargo next season then. Likewise, but it might never happen.

But we're already spending £13m a year on tickets. You're saying £13m a year is fine, but £20m a year isn't, as if it's clear cut. I completely agree, but not just Forest, all clubs. We have lost out because other clubs have broken the rules, and QPR haven't been punished which encourages other...

Relatively speaking he's not that expensive is he? He's been pretty sick hasn't he? I think he'll come good. Indeed, and I certainly understand that it doesn't always work out for clubs that spend too much, but lets not pretend it's worked out for us. How much have we lost in the last 5 years...

IMO not all to do with QPR, but also to do with the FL being spineless. As above, not necessarily.

It won't work if you sign a few expensive and crap players. Given our recent recruitment, do we think we'd do that? That depends how long said players had on their contract. I expect Middlesbrough have broken FFP this year. We've lost a lot of money, they've been promoted and they will receive a...

I think that applied to previous seasons, but the for the season coming up you can go for it without breaking the rules, as the loss isn't calculated until after 3 seasons are complete.

I thought this was a good topic to discuss as we start the summer of player recruitment :shrug: Well if you got promoted, you'll earn a lot more in the season you're in the PL, which combined with the extra loss allowed, should make the books balance.

I don't think it's the same at all. This season past the allowable loss was £13m. Next season, I don't think there's a limit at all, you just have to have it balanced in 3 years. You could lose £40m next season, £40m the following, get promoted, and still pass FFP without having a fire sale.

You might even be allowed to lose more the £39m in the first year, as it's only the total over the 3 years that counts. That's why I started the thread - we could actually spend big this coming season.

Not that complicated really. "maximum loss of £39m over a rolling 3 season timeframe (compared to an equivalent figure of £105m in the Premier League). A club that moves between the Premier League and Championship will be assessed in accordance with the permitted loss in the relevant...

Our club have consistently shown that they wish to operate within the FFP limits. However, the rules change for the next season. The limit for £2015/16 was a loss of £13m The limit for the next 3 seasons is a loss of £39m (if you stay in the Championship) and even more if you get promoted after...