GT wasn't only talking about an 'all in' or 'all out' choice, he was also talking about the detail. But regardless of what he was referring to, you are saying voters had the opportunity to leave, by voting Labour. But some people wouldn't want to vote Labour, because they disagree with their...
It's not irrelevant because you weren't just pointing out that you disagreed with GT, you also said "So the voters were given a very clear opportunity to leave if they wanted", and I was replying to that.
That's not a clear opportunity to leave. That's like saying UKIP is our clear opportunity to leave now, but what if we want to leave but don't want our country run by racist idiots?
And look at the poll - most people don't want to just leave, they just want to renegotiate, because most of us...
I don't think the public love it when they see us sending £billions to Europe either, and we haven't lived with the other policies for 40 years because they've changed a lot over that time.
That's certainly a big issue, and it's a simple point to make. It's the rest that I care about though, I...
It's not just about immigration (which should include agreement on when people become eligible for benefits - either after a period of time or after contributing), but also about trade, the common agriculture policy, the fisheries policy, which laws the UK would have power over, etc.
We have to accept that we are in the UK. Our government is the government of the UK. England will probably vote for a Tory government in 2 days time, but there's a good chance England won't get the government it's voted for. That's life, because England is not independent.
The same is true of...
It is completely ridiculous. We live in a democracy, and each part of the UK gets to vote for MPs, and those MPs form a government, If the government that we democratically elect decide to leave the EU, then that's what we do, just as the government that we democratically elected decided to join...
Don't be ridiculous. You sound like Alex Salmond. Scotland never voted to join the EU, joining the EU was nothing to do with Scotland. The UK is a member of the EU, and is quite entitled to leave if it wants to. Different sections of the UK don't have the right to stay just because they don't...
But Scotland and Wales couldn't remain part of the EU if the UK votes to leave. And Scotland and Wales don't have the right to a referendum about remaining in the UK, just as Sussex and Cornwall don't have that right. They'd need to ask for a referendum, and if the UK agreed to a referendum (for...
No, it's an 'in but renegotiate our position'. ie, if the EU won't accept a renegotiation, leave - so not just an 'in'.
It's very different for France and Germany as they're in the Eurozone. Either leaving would be a disaster for the EU, but it would also be very bad for France/Germany. I...
It's not a simple in or out, as is evident by the fact that most people have voted to renegotiate. As things currently stand, without renegotiation, I think we'd be better off leaving the EU. But I'd much rather we renegotiate and then stay in.
Of course I accept that each country is constantly...
Well not necessarily. This is what I think the idea of a referendum is about.
If we're having a referendum, I'm sure the EU would like us to stay, as we contribute money. But a lot of the British public are fed-up with the way it's currently set up, so there's a danger we'll leave. And that...
I'm confused. If you'd like us to reshape it, do you think we could best do that by being part of it, or by leaving it first? I don't understand how you can not want any of the three outcomes I've suggested.