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Although the decision didn't work out for us, I think it's good if the board asked the manager if we should pay it. The manager is the one who knows the most about our players, and how he expects the team to take shape, so I like the fact that their wishes are taken into account. It just didn't...

And working on your basis, we should never bother discussing whether it was good or bad to get, keep, sell or miss out on a player.

You're going to hurt yourself on that fence. There's a difference between having no idea what someone's been offered, and having some idea. The way you're reacting you'd never pass opinion of any footballer ever, because you don't know how much they're on compared to every other footballer on...

Do you think we should have offered more for Murray, or do you think we were right to let him go?

I don't ignore FFP, I'm aware there's no bottomless pit and that there are limits. And while I don't know the amount we offered Murray, I'm pretty sure we could have offered more (without offering more than we'd offered CMS), and with hindsight I think we should have. And I don't know what we...

Ah, didn't know that.

He's New York FC's first ever signing. Just a holiday in OZ?

Do you think we should have offered Murray more? Do you know how much we offered him?

I don't know how much we offered him, but I thought we should have offered him more (£1m was a bargain, and we've got to compete with other clubs on wages). The fact that Cardiff have now paid £3m suggests we should have.

There's quite a difference between those that have come down and you suddenly being the smallest club. You could offer Grabban more than we could.