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  1. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    It's just this for me, whether you a single policy party, extreme left or right you need to be heard and represented nationally based on your national vote. At the moment millions of votes are wasted because FPTP protects the big two.
  2. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    Given the recent choas, given Labours ability to make any advancement during the chaotic phase we find our selves in and a completely disillusioned and disenfranchised electorate, what would you suggest? Arundel & South Downs will always be Tory, we all know that, so why would anyone choose to...
  3. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    So no change of job anytime soon!
  4. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    So, anyone up for a spot of PR now then? I can see Mr Cable's gang getting larger with both Labour & Tory defections over the coming weeks and possibly needing to support one of the two parties to forma coalition, imagine if they'll only do it with a party that commits to PR? Although given the...
  5. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    Although one significant bonus is everyone would feel their views are being represented in Parliament, however extreme. I know people have a problem with this but at least people's views are out in the open and can be debated, challenged and accepted or rejected by people are heard. This two...
  6. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    48% weren't happy but hey this ISN'T a BREXIT thread!
  7. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    True but every vote would count, living in Arundel & South Downs you could argue my vote will never count. If I vote Tory I go with the other 37,500 votes, if I vote Green Party I'm one of 2,500 wasted votes that mean nothing anywhere!
  8. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    Now do we think consensus politics is the way ahead? Clearly we need to break the ridiculous situation of pretend democracy, which party do you want either Con or Lab and if you live in Tory heartlands or Labour strongholds you don't need to worry as your vote doesn't count anyway. Look at how...
  9. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    So, given Mr Corbyn's desire for a party for the MANY not the FEW, I'm guessing he'll be all over PR ... right?
  10. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    I think you'd see an emergence of some single agenda politicians, arriving on the landscape to get one thing changed or at least heard. For example: I'm very keen for more NHS or Govt funding to go to hospices and for better alignment between hospices, which may see each other as funding...
  11. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    As you've made clear this is based on the current voting method and political system and is in no way representative of a vote under PR.
  12. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    But that wouldn't be a reason not to do it?
  13. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    So I vote Tory in Arundel, on a wet day my Wife, who may also vote Tory, may decide to stay indoors. However, if all votes counted and we decided to vote for a national movement looking to free schools of religion, introduce a wealth tax or reduce the chance of bat / vehicle collision then we...
  14. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    With PR though every vote counts, if you have an Animal Welfare Party or Civil Liberties and enough people across the country share your views you should, if you raise enough votes, be represented nationally. Everyone states this may mean people don't get the MP they voted for so maybe we should...
  15. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    Agreed, but the 10% labour vote, 2.5% Lib Dem vote and say .5% Green vote could increase if people thought there was something to vote for?
  16. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    Yes, not as currently played out, but could change?
  17. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    But if people with extreme views feel they have no platform what other options are open to them? Giving women the vote was considered an extreme view, as was same sex marriage and banning smoking, they have all evolved and made for a better country. Clearly I'm not advocating that extreme...
  18. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    But I'd argue the 34%+ that don't vote is down to them thinking that their vote doesn't count. Imagine living in Arundel & South Downs and thinking about walking down to the Polling Station to vote for The Green's, a local independent supporting a national cause or Labour, why would you bother...
  19. Tim Over Whelmed

    [Politics] Proportional Representation

    OK, but can I be the Dictator please? (I guess Dictators' don't ask like that?)
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