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How on earth did my children survive to 44 and 47? It's all very ideological isn't it? I'm sure you've never been irresponsible, ever.

That's unfair when I know he had to take early retirement due to his health.

It is now, but child abduction is so rare, it wouldn't have occurred to them. It certainly didn't to me 40 years ago. I relied on chalet maids walking around the camp listening out for babies and children crying. Lots of the old timers on here have sat outside pubs with a bag of crisps and a...

Yes, the people of Sheffield raised quite a lot. You seem a lot more worried about the cost, and money, rather than the fate of Maddy.

According the Timeline it wasn't even 100 yards, it was 50 yards. It was common practise in the complex. We now know it wasn't safe, but as I pointed out a lot earlier in the thread, it was common practise in holiday camps like Pontins, Butlins and Warners. I did it myself. I cannot be...

They were within the complex, just 100 yards away, with either one of them, or one of their friends, checking the children every 15 minutes.

Well said. I lost my son in a shop when he was a toddler. He was in his pushchair one second, and gone the next. He was found 20 minutes later, on a traffic island, outside the shop, by two girls. I was completely panic stricken, and to this day I never told my ex about what had happened. I was...

Looking at it logically, who would charge them? Portugese police? Do they have a law about neglect in the same way the British do?

Police deal with criminals also the time, and also have gut instincts. Theirs are a lot more accurate, than random people who've read a newspaper article, or watched a few scraps of news.

You are talking with the benefit of hindsight. As I said it was common practice & I cannot point the finger. There but for the grace of God, go I.

They were in a restaurant not a bar. If you'd gone to any holiday camp 40 years ago, and previously, you'd have found hundreds of us doing it, including me. Chalet maids would earn extra money walking around the chalets, and reporting a crying child. A sign would go up in the cinema, theatre...