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thats a definition of western, not westernised. you said westernised.

i asked for a definition of westernised, not western. there are plenty of westernised or partially westernised non-western countries. i know the difference but i think piersa has got his terminology wrong. the philippines is very westernised, for example.

what is a westernised country?

3.75 million brits in HKG. I dont think so. lets hope the rest of the figures are accurate. 8 of those countries are former British colonies or indeed part formerly part of the UK (if you assume by Ireland that means the Republic). Of the others Germany is less than a days drive, Spain an...

bwesternised countries. thank you. why not just, countries. there are loads have more.

no. where do i say that. look its not hard. you pipe up about american gun culture. i say this happens every time, and no one mentions other countries with gun problems. simster suggests we focus on the US as not many people are going to live as expats in other countries. my point is...

its only more relevant on the assumption (probably correct, but still shows a certain cultural mindset) that people would emigrate to these places in more numbers. yes thats the case, but its my point about the worldview. the pavlovian responses to the US, or the US centric view of the world...

you couldnt miss the point more spectacularly if you tried. my point is its not that abnormal, globally, and you are a bit one eyed if you pick out the US for special treatment on this. yes we speak the same language, share a history, and are culturally dominated by them, but focusing on them...

discounting third world countries proves exactly my point regarding parochialism. Narrowing our comparisons down to countries we are extremely familiar with culturally, or are similar socio-economically, doesnt really make it a more valid proposition. South Africa and the Philippines and...

exactly dave. when you read all this guff about oh i dont like america because of fast food the guns and that they dont have a passport unlike us oh so worldly brits who couldnt name the presidents of france or ireland if asked, it cracks me up.

loads of countries have cretinous gun cultures. would you state you would not move to south africa, or the philippines, or finland, for the same reason?