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the dutch are not getting any credit here. they are f***ing massive like the scandis. if we were doing it on international football tournement performances they would be up there. saying that, if this was based purely on euro and world cup performances we would have had this in the bag ages ago.

you raise a good point bushy. when jocks are the only jock in a southern pub they get off on acting up to it. on home turf though they are just average punters who's pals would find it hilarious they are considered pub nutters. what nation epitomises average hardness though? we need a...

the germans are disqualified due to their previous. you are right they are game but its because there is something wrong with them. they are more disturbed serial killers than toe to toe ruckers.

apparently the french were thought of as by far the toughest of the european up until the napoleonic wars. i think sometimes we brits mistake their dandyism for softness. like you say there are plenty of places in france that are not for the faint hearted.

yes agreed you do not rule a 1/4 of the world for no reason. i have a lot of time for the poles but they are hopeless pissheads and are scruffy as f***. its hard to have any respect for them. they do go to the pub too and go to football while over here though you can spot them a mile off...

bulgarians seem to be both game and enjoy a laugh in my experience. good combination. their neighbours the greeks must be one of the woosiest though. fancy picking the turks as your enemy when you are like them. not a good move.

I reckon the Russians or the Serbs. All British Isles nationalities rank very highly for the more comfortable nations if not scoring all four top places for that category. Albanians are physcos but mental illness is not the same as backbone. the nuttiest bloke I know is Lithuanian but have...