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  1. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Whether the average Joe in a America is a gun-waving looney (some of their 330 million might be) or a nice, chatty bloke (some of their 330 might be) or if you think their various governments bombs freedom & love into the world or just strives bombs for dominance - both of these things are...
  2. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    You're obviously not all the same, I don't think anyone has said that. Just like people don't refer to every Russian when they're bad mouthing Russia or not everyone from North Korea when they're bad mouthing North Korea, it must still be possible to criticise US actions in different countries...
  3. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Not surprised by the reaction here. The West, and the US in particular, causing as much death and destruction as the countries and leaders you hate is always a sensitive subject, and since it is a irrefutable fact no one can argue against it and have to resort to calling someone "childish" or...
  4. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Its the kind of reply you might get if you call me a apologist genocidal fascist, especially while at the same time always sticking up for a genocidal fascist country :shrug: Try calling someone "apologist genocidal fascist" on the street and see if the response you get is "offensive" or not.
  5. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    I'm not allowed to talk about the war in Ukraine. Banned from the thread. People accept Western atrocities - because they think we only kill people who they find racially inferior (like Arabs) or people who they find ideologically flawed (like socialists and anti-imperialists), which is...
  6. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    "What about Putin?" is the most common response when someone brings up American atrocities. Does Putin make American atrocities better? My apologist genocidal facist views? Coming from a bloke defending a country responsible for more invasions than any other country.
  7. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    I don't think thats the "NSC narrative" - more likely a few individuals (like me) disagreeing with the take that America is some kind of force of good. 50+ overthrown governments, endless wars that were initiated by brainwashing the public into believing that they were actually bombing democracy...
  8. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Phew. Feel calmer now when you've invented some UEFA regulations to protect the PL...
  9. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Yup. Italian and Spanish clubs won't give it up, the SPL is essential for their competitiveness and in some cases possibly their survival Question is how the emerging American Premier League will approach it. They might sneak in, but turning football into a one league sport that no one can...
  10. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    I'm sure the would be protests. There's always protests. "Don't close the mines, we'll lose our jobs and communities", and then the mines may or may not close. I think they have in the past been very collaborative when it comes to strengthen the status and widening the market of an entire...
  11. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Yes, I do think most or all American billionaire business investors with a sport niche and background of running and making profits from American sports teams think in a similar fashion, namely that they want to maximise profits and reduce risk when investing in eg Premier League football teams...
  12. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Not necessarily disagreeing with that. I'm not reading that essay. What I find very annoying is that I make a thread about football and the Premier League and its future and it takes ten minutes before GB wants to derail the thread into being about my personal views on America as a whole and...
  13. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    And here we go again, NSC moderator wanting to transform a thread about the consequences of Americanisation of football into a shit stirring contest. But yeah I'm willing to play the game you're setting up: yeah I'm anti-American in a similar way to you getting a boner from every nation...
  14. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Sure, clubs like Brentford and Brighton are the hopes here but there would have to be more of them. ESL was "killed off", or rather put to rest because it will be back as a suggestion, indeed. Would it have stopped fans going to games? I don't think so. Would fans stop watching the games on TV...
  15. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Erm, yes. The timespan and development might look a little different but looking at the current developmment, American owners and their Arab business partners are going to own every single Premier League club within ten years, and it is incredibly naive to believe that English fans saying that...
  16. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    Nothing is sacred. You can have a mass murderer take over the club or put outreagous prices on tickets: people still pay up and come. I have a feeling that the goalposts for what you "can or cant **** with" are nomads in this day and age. Roman Abramovich was once unthinkable, and then...
  17. Swansman

    [Football] American invasion of the Premier League - the end of promotion/relegation?

    As we all know, they don't do promotion/relegation in the US. The reason for this is to protect the investments of the owners, arguing "less money will be spent if we could risk losing our income through relegation". Instead, the leagues expand or (unusually) shrink based on geographics, in...
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