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He's certainly the player I would have mentioned, instead of Gross.

But you're a fan of Knockaert?

Woow woow hang on there, so far the list is:- Stephens, Propper & Hemed. Skalak probably screwed up somehow. The only player to be dropped to the goatbench was Murphy... ... but he'll be back.

Oh yeah hence the damning with faint praise comment. I think Propper is my fault, I was giddy with excitement when he signed and really expected him to hit the ground running. Gross' player ratings have surprised me I thought he did ok, all things considered. As Beach Hut says Suttner got no...

Not many clubs spend up to £10m on a match ready player and expect to ease him in, or hide him from the big boys. Yesterday Sidwell would have been a walking freekick, but tighter in possession, although that's damning with faint praise.

I doubt Dale would have been so 'bad, shitehouse, scum of the earth' yesterday if he had Kayal or to a lesser extent Sidwell, next to him. It was clear within the first 5 minutes DS was playing for 2, and he couldn't have done that against Rotherham, let alone ...