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For the purposes of this debate I always say 'some cyclists...' There are so many morons on the road, not taking into account costly one off mistakes, before you even take the 'chip on the shoulder' brigade, from both camps. It's a wonder many many more people aren't killed to death.

Nah, I'm not that blinkered, I do have some self awareness. Stat Brother complaining about repetitive threads, would be nearer the mark.

:yawn: DONE TO DEATH.