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Maybe I'm just being horribly stereotypical about the 'Latino spirit', all the while raising Latino Calde even higher to some god-like presence. But I reckon Martinez has smashed the odd cup, when his orders haven't been followed. But I still see Manager Calde giving Orlandi a lift to the game...

He's got the bat-pooh crazy gene. Neither working! (not fair on Coppell I know) Coppell has a chance of squeaking in, although I'd be interested to know how involved he is/was with his teams. He always struck me as the delegater through to game time. There's no way Calde could be that aloof.

I don't think it does tell us anything we didn't already know about current legend Calde. For me though it does put a dampen on Calde the Manager, though. He clearly can't be the person he is, and manager the team. Calde comes across even more so as a great bloke, not something to could level...