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Yes, the figures I was taking described themselves as pneumonia, which I would expect to be more than influenza alone. The only reason I am using these sort of figures is to an understanding of where we haven't - as a nation - had a big campaign in the past to prevent deaths through changing...

We can use the ONS figures for England and Wales to find out - at the end of the year - what percentage of deaths above expected occurred this year. The current figures show that 52,345 more deaths have occurred than the average 5 year expectation - 14% more deaths than expected. If we could...

I don't want one because those who want stronger measures will not be satisfied if they get what they want and will then start agitating for more restrictions. The sooner and quicker we give in to them, the more they will try and force upon us. It's important we keep society and the economy...