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Correct. It shows two things. a) How arrogant and lazy the Tories were and b) despite this, what little stomach there is in this country for a government led by naive Corbyn and that utter fckwit McDonnell. Exactly this. I've said it before but I really genuinely doubt we'll see two less...

Weren't you paying attention at the last general election? That is exactly what the Tories assumed back then. They conducted the most arrogant campaign I've ever seen where May didn't feel the need to appear on a leaders TV debate and all any Tory said was "if you don't vote for us you'll...

Are you going to provide one positive aspect of Brexit like I asked, seeing as I answered your question?

So you *did* vote to get poorer. Oh OK, although I'm fairly sure you don't speak for all leavers. For one, Gwylan voted leave but didn't expect the extreme lunatics to be insisting we quit the Customs Union as well. Personally I'm still not sure why quitting the EU was so important to you...

To be fair, some of those people said nothing because they were advised their input would do more harm than good.

But the problem we have now is that the deal on the table is considerably worse than the status quo, and there is ample evidence suggesting plenty among the electorate have changed their minds. Nobody voted to get poorer.

Yes, and? I'm not saying I agree with it, and he's been a wet blanket over it ever since. But ultimately, he didn't create that mess; the Tories did.

Disagree. As I understand it, he simply wrestled with his conscience - he's not pro EU. Where he has let people down is his unwillingness to commit to a 2nd vote now that what is on the table looks like a complete shambles.

You're making the mistake of thinking anyone staunchly opposed to Brexit is not flexible-minded and is conducting class warfare. Well there's nothing class warfare about my position. I just happen to think Brexit is a complete mess and that the Tories are entirely responsible for that. I'm no...

I am very angry about Brexit and the conduct of the Tories, yes. I won't be apologising for that because I think they've done dreadful damage to the country and I simply cannot accept that May has got the best deal possible for the reasons I outlined on this thread. i.e. she has no business...

You accuse him with coming up with bile regularly. That is not "disagreement" and then you accused him of "apparent refusal" for pointing out that the proposed deal leaves us in a worse state than the status quo. I'm bored of arguing with your nonsensical noise now. Fill your boots and have...

Of course you would prefer to call it disagreement, but that doesn't mean that's what it is. In my view, you are pompous and rude because you constantly criticise his posts, regardless of their worth. What he said on this thread is perfectly reasonable, and that is all I'm saying. Of course I...

That is irrelevant. I am taking issue with your assertion that she has done a decent job. She hasn't. She has made a difficult situation (inherited from Call Me Dave) considerably more difficult by failing to galvanise her party to campaign properly (remember she refused to appear on a TV...

Decent job? I might have sympathy for this point of view if she hadn't brought this on herself. You obviously forget that she went to the electorate with the hope of a thumping majority so as to get the job done, but then the whole Tory party ran the most arrogant, lazy campaign I think I've...

But YOU'RE allowed to post insults aren't you? As you do by sniping at pretty much anything Ernest posts. There is nothing remotely arrogant in asking why we'd want a deal that leaves us worse off than we are now. This deal is quite clearly exactly that. If it wasn't, it might after all...

What are you talking about? There is nothing unreasonable about asking the question: "Why would anyone want to sell a deal that leaves us in a worse place than we are now" I came to the conclusion long ago that you're one of those people who thinks he's the voice of reason on this board...

Frankly, he's absolutely no worse than anyone else. I don't really understand why you always take issue with Ernest.