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It's easy to forget how average Liverpool were when he joined. They were 10th I think, and seemingly saddled with some absolute dross. He's since made some good signings and they look a lot better than both Manchester clubs. They are again comparable to Spurs and Arsenal in terms of ability...

I'm not sure Pep is all that, but he's only been here a few months. He needs time like anybody else. Klopp is an excellent manager though. I don't see much wrong with anything he's done. How amused I was by the implication by several clueless bin dippers on the BBC text feed last night who...