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Any half electable Labour leader would be a shu-in for 2020. Sadly, that's not what we have and the LibDems simply don't resonate with enough people to be a serious force. We're stuck with the current shower until Corbyn is replaced with a moderate.

One of the two state schools in Redhill is having £450,000 cut from it's budget, the equivalent of 16 teachers. While you continue to argue in favour of whatever changes (cuts) the Conservatives make, how on earth can that be considered reasonable? Oh and my wife went for a meal out last night...

Absolute bollocks as you well know - 48% of the electorate want to stay in the EU. The LibDems were binned off because the electorate perceived them to be ignoring key manifesto pledges in exchange for a whiff of power. It was probably unfair that they took the brunt of all the failings of the...

Well yes, but this is a policy they had in 2010 and before, when they had 50 or 60, so that point is totally irrelevant.

What you mean like having a pan-party policy on the EU, unlike the other two parties?

He did indeed and I agree with slinging out the Tories. Sadly none if this makes Corbyn any more electable to three quarters of the electorate. :shrug:

Christ, Labour went from 2nd to 4th. They are a total shambles at the moment. Luke warm levels of satisfaction for the Lib Dems who polled more votes than they did in 2015 with half the turnout, (11% v 5.7% in 2015) but were still nowhere near the levels of support they enjoyed in 2010 (18%)...

No, it really isn't a two way street at all. Those pictures were POSED for, not quite the same as taking a series of automatic photos doing an every day task and then publishing the most awkward looking stills.

The Sun and some of the other gutter press really do abuse the privilege of press freedom we have in this country when you see absolute bollocks like this. Same sort of thing they did with Neil Kinnock where they only ever posted pics of him yawning or similar unnecessarily undignified...

Didn't opinion polls also suggest the referendum wouldn't go the way of Brexit? And I really wouldn't rule out a Lib Dem power share quite yet either!

The Lib Dems received 400 more votes in this by-election than they did in 2010, on a turn-out 20,000 down on 2010 (38,000 last night, 58,000 in 2010). By any measure, that is astonishing.

Yes, because as Ernest clearly demonstrates, it is proof that Theresa May must go. :dunce:

Not really. She's only been in 5 minutes. Right now, your party is in the shit or haven't you bothered to read last night's by election result?

I told you your smugness was misplaced: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37719170 You'll note the LibDems share of the vote rose from 7% to 30% in Cameron's seat at the expense of both the Tories and Labour. That is ASTONISHING.

Because the only people they were ever relevant to are the chattering classes, but this might well change if Brexit puts jobs on the line. This is compounded by having a very low profile leader that hardly anybody has even heard of.

Your smugness is misplaced. Being "committed to delivering and making a success of Brexit" is not the same thing as "delivering and making a success of Brexit". Expect the LibDems to bounce back once this is proven. Already the Prime Minister is in a spot of trouble for unilaterally...

It would certainly be a calculated risk. But their South West heartlands surely extend way beyond the fishing villages of Cornwall. What about the rest of the region, which has benefitted heavily from EU grants?

As I said earlier in the thread, one where the Lib Dems roar back with 20-25% of the popular vote, thanks to Labour's lurch to the left and the Conservative division in Europe both allowing the Lib Dems to finally differentiate themselves from both parties.

You seem happy to ignore the rather important point that nobody has had the chance to approve the actual outcome. I've yet to read a credible argument against having a vote on the deal negotiated.

A coup suggests something undemocratic - I couldn't advocate that obviously. But a coalition featuring the Lib Dems demanding a vote on the deal negotiated would be something I'm holding out for.