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He doesn't though. He pulls it for sure but the contact is still there. Would it have felled you or me? No. But its contact without playing the ball. Its a foul. Same as the first one. Has Kane played for the Pen? 100% but the contact is still made. None of this is Queensbury rules but I'd...

They are both pens. First one is due to a silly rule, but as they stand Kane is interfering until the ball reaches him, by then the Loveren touch makes him on side. Ridiculous but the letter of the law. Second one is offside if you have a telescope but he has kicked him even if hes hit the...