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Unless a violent challenge, I would say 'yes' in 99% of penalty decisions in recent times

I've got alot of time for you usually SB, but you can bore off on this one! We're allowed to admit we were poor and deserved to lose (universal on here tonight) whilst also debating / complaining about a clearly crap VAR decision (that happened at 0-0 need I remind you)!

He got to the ball first, diverted it away from the intended path of the attacker and then collided with him. You could excuse the ref missing out in real time, but this is EXACTLY what VAR was brought in for. I don't want to believe it, but the more of these I see, the more I get drawn...

Some of the pro-Arsenal sentiment and/or people trying desperately to appear "unbiased" on this thread is incredible. It has been absolutely, 100%, utterly non-negotiably the policy of the last 20 years of Premier League football refereeing that if you touch the ball first as a defender...