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I don't disagree, but we'll be starting both those games as underdogs - they are certainly the toughest 2 fixtures we have. My thinking is if we lose, then clawing back 10 or 12 points over 16 games must make us outsiders for automatic. They are both odds on for promotion whilst we are 3's and...

We haven't blown it and CH will certainly be going for it but we are outsiders for a reason. Even ignoring Derby and Burnley we have to overhaul one of Hull and Boro. We are away at both and the liklihood is we'll get beat. That being the case we'll have 16 games to somehow claw back 10 points...

I guess you never know what the January window will throw up in change of fortune but I'm with you on automatic. Burnley could get a lot better yet and I think Brum might fade quickly. This is just for fun ... getting even 60% of results correct is a challenge!

I'm with you. They're one of the form sides and have had a tricky run. After their Saturday game v Hull they only have to play teams in the top 8, 3 more times