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  1. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    As I said above, Herd Immunity isn't some codeword for letting the virus do its worst. Doing that would've resulted in herd immunity as a side effect but isn't herd immunity in itself. If we found a vaccine that meant no more deaths, that'd be herd immunity too. And when the lockdown...
  2. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    Unfortunately, I can't see any way of protecting the vulnerable at this time except by locking them away.
  3. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    Exactly. When something good like herd immunity has been equated with genocide in many people's eyes, you know that something has gone drastically wrong with the coverage of this issue.
  4. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    I have read it, but I was more commenting on the tone of the reporting to begin with.
  5. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    It’s a horrible situation. Ideally care homes would be isolated for a few weeks with careers living in and all Covid patients should go to specific hospitals like Nightingale while the other hospitals go back to normal as best they can. Easier said than done, obviously.
  6. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    If we got herd immunity the way I mentioned above then hopefully the vulnerable could then return to a more normal life as transmission would be massively reduced. And a vaccine may never come or may take many years. What do we do then? It’s a horrible situation and whatever choice we go...
  7. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    The figures of how many that’d need hospitalisation are out there. Just look at the figures of those under 60 (excluding those with preexisting conditions). Actually Sweden and Japan didn’t lockdown, so we can see how they cope although it won’t be like for like, of course. And if we don’t do...
  8. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    My point was that herd immunity is herd immunity. It’s a scientific term that means we have a natural resistance. Many people, including several in this thread, think it’s a codeword for letting the virus do its worst and the devil take the hindmost. That’s the point I was trying to make, but...
  9. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    Herd immunity does not mean culling the weak. It doesn’t mean sitting back and letting the virus do it’s worst (although herd immunity could be a side effect of that) Herd immunity means that as a group of people we aren’t as badly effected by viruses. The common cold, for example. Herd...
  10. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    Yes, the vaccine created herd immunity which meant the virus had no human hosts to latch onto and it died.
  11. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    We have herd immunity to smallpox. Is that euthanasia?
  12. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    Yes, herd immunity to this disease would be a good thing. Herd Immunity would mean it didn’t kill us. You're equating herd I’m unity with the projected deaths of this disease if it was allowed to spread naturally. That’s not herd immunity; that’s a virus killing people. It might result in...
  13. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    Do you think having herd immunity to various diseases is a bad thing?
  14. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    Herd immunity in itself means that we are immune either completely or to the point that it’s not too serious. That’d be a good thing. You know how a common cold is a mere inconvenience to us yet could wipe out a remote village of eskimos? That’s because we have herd immunity and they don’t...
  15. RossyG

    Older People Being 'Airbrushed' Out Of Virus Figures

    I think this story encapsulated just how badly the media have covered this issue. It’s all about scare stories, click bait, exaggerated outrage, and gotcha questioning. And they’ve turned herd immunity, which is a bloody good thing to have, into a dirty word.
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