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    Up to now, the govt have been very clear that they blame the unions. If however the union members vote against this plan, it will be interesting to see how the government deal with it. Given their new found appreciation of the will of the people being paramount, how can they criticise the...
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    I think this was the rail expert who originally costed the saving of gtr not employing enough people to be safety critical obs with only very few reasons to run without one e.g a proper emergency, was less than 50 pence per daily ticket
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    Interesting you think the majority either don't care or turned against them. The people I commute with seem to still complain most about the govt and the company.
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    I'm not sure that his comments about guards hiding away in compartments is either accurate or indeed likely to help the dispute to get resolved. It's almost as if they're trying to antagonise the staff whilst also looking to seem reasonable to the customers. What surprises me about this is that...
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    My view on last night's debate. Interesting no dft rep (although huw merrimen did a good job of selling the govt line) Interesting no aslef rep Interesting that it was 3 v 1 on the panel blaming the union whilst audience seem more evenly split? Union rep needs to work harder on presentation...
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    Well I've now taken the same insurance policy as you as I had a 10 pound voucher from the time I got a coach from Gatwick in a previous rail fiasco which expires at year end and have used that. May see you at some point of journey home
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    Think I might join you in that insurance policy. We are at rum and sugar at canary wharf. The last time I went there I got home at 2am. Too many dark and stormys, planters punch and rounded off with porn stars and rum espresso martinis. At least I stayed awake on the train home..
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    My Xmas do is this Thursday. I'm planning to go via Victoria or maybe chance the thameslink from blackfriars. Coach is one option or if I get to gatwick then coach from there runs through the night. Can't stay up in London as I'm doing school run Friday morning as my wife's Xmas so that day.
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    I don't believe they have declined to....I suspect their concern would be however that this dispute has been ongoing for 6 months and all SASTA have done is take legal action rather than talk
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    Where can one apply to give evidence on behalf of Aslef in this court hearing? The concept of using consumer rights to fight off this strike is the ultimate irony from the southern charlatans. They haven't given a monkeys over the last 3 years prior to strike action when short forming trains...
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    As a passenger I have no issue with technological progress. I rate the electrostar trains highly. The Aircon is good and seats comfortable and I prefer them to slam door But to replace a person it needs to do the job as well if not better than the person. At this stage I don't believe the...
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    The unmanming of stations is something that has increased significantly in last couple of years and thameslink trains used to be 4 or 8 coaches and are now 12
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    From what I understand the main differences between then and now is that trains are longer and that it's noting being proposed for stations that are un manned Also there have been a number of issues with drivers now having action taken against them for situations where passengers have been...
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    Aslef had previously voted to strike but this had been cancelled following a injunction sought by gtr Aslef voted again. Which is the strike that now happens
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    I know you keep pedalling this. But the blunt answer is that southern have failed to employ enough people to do the job. To cover that gap they need to rely on voluntary overtime. However Given how badly they treat their staff it seems that people don't want to do it. Any business that cannot...
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    I was on the same train as you. I'm.now on one waiting for a driver!
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    This is where you and I (and the rail accident investigation branch) disagree. DOO trains are less safe. The question is, does anybody really care
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    In the occasions that I've been on a train that has hit someone (4) then the guard has been invaluable in assisting passengers and the driver
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    My own view is that this has been coming for a while. When network south Central ran the route (when I started commuting in 1996) they had old trains and minimal customer service. But trains were generally on time. When connex ran it, things got hugely worse in terms of reliability. When...
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    Southern Rail STRIKE details

    Apparently loads of managers have been on an intensive course to qualify as guards so they can staff the seaford line. Begs a few questions; - I thought they didnt need guards - I thought it was easy and didn't need skills so why the intensive training - Who is doing the managers jobs when...
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