I don't doubt you fella, I was on about Islam has had a long and proud history of both science and education so you cannot imply they have never had these. I think however like all religions things change be it attitudes and reactions of the here and now hence why I said what we are seeing in...
Sorry that's poo poo, Muslims have had a rich history in science and education since day one and are well known for this. What we are seeing now is something completely different for many varied reasons which all need to be addressed.