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Yes, the underdog lost and you predicted it! Massive congratulations.

Well, well, well. Maybe?

Well, that's because no one else had one! Different times are so difficult to compare. Perry was incredible - he won the career grand slam, three consecutive Wimbledons and led GB to four consecutive Davis Cup victories. He was also a World Champion in Table Tennis. But in those days, tennis...

I agree that help may be needed, but am doubtful that NSC will be a place where it will be found. There seems to be an enormous amount of anger that needs managing.

I wasn't, Trig. I quoted Maldini calling me ignorant, and used your post, which explained so well why Murray could never be a quitter to refute his preposterous insinuation. The insult was aimed solely at him. Sorry for any confusion.

You and Maldini - peas in a pod. :wink:

I wouldn't bother blinding him with something as ridiculous as a sensible argument backed up by facts. He'll call you 'ignorant'. :lolol: He really is an arse.

:shrug: You're really not very bright, are you?

:lolol: My "obvious ignorance." :lolol: And then you state that Murray gives up, and doesn't "have the stomach for wars." This about one of the greatest 'triers' in sport. As I said, utter crap.

You do spout some utter crap. He does not 'choke' in Finals. He has to play Djokovik, one of the greatest players the world has ever seen. To lose to him is not 'choking', it's not being quite as good a player as your opponent. To have won two Grand Slams against him is an absolutely...

Djokovik is only beatable if Murray plays like he did this afternoon. You never know. I am keeping the faith.