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God... I don't. I did on this occasion because if you do my job it is absolutely essential to be in a union. The relevance was there. No need to turn this into ANOTHER teacher bashing thread.

Well yes. And without the possibility of human response, things could go a bit tits up, wouldn't you agree?

With no pilot in case they need to respond to unexpected circumstances? Whatever...if you are happy for people to be replaced by machines and have basic rights stripped away as a consequence then it is unlikely that we will agree on much.

FFS. Take off and landing are NEVER computer operated. For good reason, too.

Welcome to the Brave New World.

I don't know what particular agreement/offer you are talking about - who knows, it may be fair. Marvellous. The point is that without unions, employers would have no incentive to look after workers' rights. And that is a bad thing.

You'd get on a plane that didn't have a pilot?

I do, even though it is 40 years ago. :down: As I say, 40 years. EVERYTHING has changed. Except for the fact that we still need to fight for the rights of ALL of the populace.

As is proved on so many occasions. :facepalm:

And there it is. That is what it is all about. We need to stand together, fight for all our rights, but the unions have been tarred as the enemy within because their actions may make life 'inconvenient' for a day. Wake up.

Or...we will do what we are told, you can screw us over, and we will stay in our place - we know our place, how dare we aspire for more? If workers were treated properly they wouldn't have to fight for their rights.

Perhaps it is the fat cats in charge of businesses who should pay your bills? It is not blackmail, it is refusing to be treated in a way that is disrespectful and suggests that the ordinary person should just doff their cap and do as they are told. Sod that.

What are you talking about? That is one of the most tabloidesque responses I have ever read.

You hate all unions because of a bad experience with one. That is not as well considered as it might be. Unions are vital in making sure that the rights of working people are sensibly maintained. Without them, there will be no security, no rights. I don't want the poverty gap to increase...

I am a teacher. Of course I am in a union. It would be madness not to be, in my profession.