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I'd already stated my case for them being a big club by citing recent victories in the Champions League against Barcelona and Ajax. The crowd figures merely confirm the fact they are a big club in every sense of the word.

Yes, and they'll still average 46,000 fans per home game. Hell, Rangers averaged 45,000+ playing the amateurs in Division 3. What will Leeds be getting, or Sheff Wed, or Birmingham? The Scottish league is poor but these are still two great clubs.

Ludicrous. Last season they beat Ajax in the Champions League, the season before that Barcelona and Spartak Moscow (home AND away), also Benfica, AC Milan and Man Utd not so long before that. Their European home record is very good and they are usually very competitive. There are a number of...