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I've played quite a bit of both demos now. Pro Evo is by far the superior game on gameplay. It doesn't look as good, the menus are a mess, changing tactics is a weird and difficult thing to do, virtually no licences and no stadiums. But it is so much more fun to play, I have scored and conceded...

:lolol: Fair enough. It is a shame that the Pro Evo 15 was ported so badly to the PC. Live action football games are the one place that PC gamers truly get stiffed. FIFA is invariably a version behind if not more, Konami it would seem could not give less of a **** about PC Pro Evo players...

Pro Evo in conversation, PES when writing surely.